Comments on Obsidian's World: Boy Racer Rapist Sent Down

Yep. When I got the train back from York to Harrog...

2009-09-08T14:37:25.016+01:00

Yep. When I got the train back from York to Harrogate she sat opposite me joking with a friend about plans for going wild in the clubs over Christmas etc. It took all my strength to bite my lip and not get up and slap the bitch.
Real rape victims, the falsely accused, everyone has been let down.
I'm really struggling at the moment to not let this me get take over my life and drag me down. Its unbelievable :o(

That's ridiculous. Sure, she sounds like she needs...

2009-09-08T12:12:26.953+01:00

That's ridiculous. Sure, she sounds like she needs help, but she should also have had some form of punishment applied.

Three false accusations, that's three potentially damaged lives and no way in hell should that go unpunished.

A self confessed 3 x false accuser walked free fro...

2009-09-08T09:17:17.543+01:00

A self confessed 3 x false accuser walked free from York Crown Court yesterday. The Judge said, go and see a doctor and don't contact your accused!!!!

Sorry to hear about the charge, wow, that's a real...

2009-09-05T10:28:16.307+01:00

Sorry to hear about the charge, wow, that's a really crappy thing for a woman to do.

I've been in a position where I could've been charged - went out for a drink one afternoon, met an old fuck-buddy and one thing led to another.

She fell asleep around 5pm, woke up 11 wondering what she was doing in my bed, naked... Neither of us had been sober, but she'd been so pissed she had no memory of coming on to me or anything. Frightened me a little, that.

Or in the case of the guy you highlighted, choose ...

2009-08-30T18:09:23.249+01:00

Or in the case of the guy you highlighted, choose not to.

I think most men during thier late teens and early...

2009-08-30T18:00:02.498+01:00

I think most men during thier late teens and early twenties have had some encounter, feelings or had a 'young girl' infactuated with them. Some will admit it, some wont.

None of this is about desires its about the choices we make and in my experience it becomes blatently obvious regardless of physical apperance or behaviours when getting down and dirty in the hay with someone if they are 'innocent' or not. For me innocence is not a turn on, in fact quite the opposite. Rape, I believe is not about sex but power and an inbalance of it.

Your right about age bieng arbatory. It realy does depend on situation, environment and localised social norms. Girls and boys will also always push the bounries.

Having bieng charged and found not guilty of rape with a woman who I believe changed her mind after the event I like you have learned the hard way that you take you life in your hands when you trust someone in these encounters. I was lucky that she admitted to others that her report was not how things happened and they came forward.

I too had a friends sitser come round to my flat with her friend, both about 14-15 and were distinctly keen to get it on, if they realy knew what that meant. I found it amusing and we shared some wine and I sent them home.

Some men will take advantage and some will not. There's no excuse. Knowing what a woman does for a job, where they live and who there friends are are some of the easier ways to avoid bieng caught out.

Japan has a curious relationship with 'young girls'. It's not seen as odd to fantasise about or find youth and nievety attractive. I think they still expect people to act fairly with each other though.

The sooner we can get away from the rediculous lie that is we are anything better than animals who choose to be civilised the better.

Mike, I'm not saying anything this guy did was rig...

2009-08-29T17:41:02.670+01:00

Mike, I'm not saying anything this guy did was right - I'm firmly in the belief he was entirely in the wrong. I just have serious doubts these girls were very angelic.

As for what qualifies as a child, it's not really that simple. I once chased a girl who I though was my own age, but turned out to be 13 - she went to the same clubs as me, was taller than me... I was 21. I backed off lightning fast when I found out, but she was more of adult than my friends sister who was my age.

We pick arbitrary ages, and the changes over the years, but the truth is the adult/childhood is not some line in the sand. We don't go to bed as children one night, and wake up the next day as adults.

Be a lot easier if we did!

Also, she was in her thirties, or so she said.

2009-08-29T14:55:41.394+01:00

Also, she was in her thirties, or so she said.

Actualy I lie, I did touch a girls boob when I was...

2009-08-29T14:54:36.013+01:00

Actualy I lie, I did touch a girls boob when I was 15, but thats not sex is it?

I have to disagree with you, 13. Old enough to dri...

2009-08-29T14:50:06.032+01:00

I have to disagree with you, 13. Old enough to drink but not to have sex. Especialy with this guy. I didn't have sex until I was 18, but had I, under 16, or whatever the legal age is I hope it would have been with someone who was as innocent as me.
Children should be encouraged to talk about sex and even at the right age experiment to some degree with each other but adults are adults and children or not.

If the site wasn't such a blatant attempt to paint...

2009-08-29T09:59:42.142+01:00

If the site wasn't such a blatant attempt to paint him as a saint, and come up with such a ridiculously insane alternative tale, I could have some sympathy for his family.

Neither account seems particularly truthful, and I suspect the truth would display Munshur not as some evil rapist, but a young idiot who thought plying a couple of willing girls with booze to get into their knickers wouldn't have too many repercussions.

I noticed that on my perambulations round the net ...

2009-08-29T06:16:33.725+01:00

I noticed that on my perambulations round the net yesterday. Do they really think it's going to work?

I suppose they must...